6d
You do not have to believe absurd conspiracy theories to fight against government power. If anything these conspiracy theories help make real issues look illegitimate.
  6d
@Twatter a truly well disciplined peasant he is indeed.
  6d
"You guys! Pointing out that the emperor has no clothes just makes him seem more powerful sane and legitimate! Just go with the official narrative that he has the first clothes! That's winning!"
  6d
To believe the conspiracy theory is to just believe the first thing you are told. I once believed it as well, but then I looked more into it rather than simply believe it.
  5d
Most people still believe the first thing they have been told: the blatantly retarded official narrative.
  5d
Wow, SILENTSAM is pulling all the stops now. He even brought his "I once believed x, but now I don't" superargument, which he NEVER uses (except i.e. 4 days ago, scroll back and see)
  5d
He also uses other favorites like unfounded assertions, triggerwords ("conspiracy theory", "absurd" "myth"...), straw man arguments (connecting it to Flat Earth) and claims of earlier debunks
  5d
If all this does not convince us of his superiority, then nothing will
  5d
I'm telling you all, 9/11 is a breeding ground for idiotic arguments. The only thing worthwhile to argue over is that the government used it as an excuse to wage unjust war, foreign and domestic
  5d
And after that, what's better than our very own self censorship champion dixnorkel telling us what is worthwhile arguing over? This is great stuff!
  5d
I mean it's not like 911 was both birthday and xmas for the PNAC guys, at almost exactly the right time for the unjust wars, or that "#911Thruth" topic naturally would cover inside job discussion
  5d
  5d
9/11 basically removed all the breaks restricting the surveillance state.
  5d
pnac documents said it was a key for their whole plan yes. I suppose I could have said that, but I don't fault myself for not always being 100% inclusive with all facts (I'd never finish talking)
  5d
Most never hear the official story. The conspiracy is the first they hear and just latch onto it. Most people, especially those who believe the conspiracy, have never seen the official report.
  5d
Dixnorkel is correct that the real thing to argue about is how the government responded to the attack. Yes it was used as an excuse for unjust wars for sure. The attack itself was real though.
  5d
I tend to argue most about conspiracies I believed until I looked into them more. Mostly christianity, 911, and climate change. I once believed that climate change was a hoax, or in god.
  5d
Now I know all of that is plain bullshit meant to make people easier to categorize and control.
  5d
It is easier to control people by making them distrust the system. It often makes it so you do not vote, or participate in society in any way that can influence it.
  5d
"Most never hear the official story" lol. That I will not argue against, but only because it is obviously wrong, and I know what happens when I argue such things with YOU-SHOULD-BE-SILENT-SAM.
  5d
The rest is almost as bad argumentation. For example, he cannot know there is no god, nobody can.
  3d
You shouldn't talk about peoples ability to argue if you are going to demand them to prove a negative statement. It kind of shows you have no idea how a proper argument is formed.
  3d
My point is that conspiracy theorists talk about the official report without ever having seen the official report
  3d
Again, absolute logic failure. If someone in the audience wants to know what failure this was, ask, and I can explain. SILENTSAM is not honest, he is just trying to bait me into a mud fight
  3d
Many victims inside the building when the planes hit report hearing/experiencing multiple explosions. There are videos of debris falling from the building and exploding in midair. Inside. Job.
  3d
I am sure there was a lot of panicking and confusion within the building at the time. If you take audio from inside the tower during the collapse you can tell that it was not a demolition.