Hm, that is maybe better discussed under taoism topic, lol. I believe in the Wu Wei concept of taoism. Any fight has counterproductive side-effects, that are often difficult to follow.
For the state in particular, when you fight it, it will learn about its weaknesses and come back stronger. It will know whom to take out later if necessary, and it will see which
strategies need to be adjusted to oppress even more efficiently.
Historically, this appears correct. Even successful revolutions usually bring about a worse state of affairs than that which they sort to counter.
your reference to wu wei makes me think of the current political left-right dichotomy. Every antagonist action on one side only serves to further motivate the other side.
Mainstream politics seems stuck in this destructive feedback loop.
Indeed, opposition makes some even more determined. And when you look for such things you can see them everywhere, in how internet trolls are created and then further trained and so on
But it is easy to say this, not to do it. My trouble with keeping myself from fighting trolls on this site is a good example.
I avoid so much media now because it makes me feel like i am under attack from the ‘other side’. I am sure the ‘other side’ feels the same.
A very mature observation
kinda loops back to counter-economics. It’s hard (i hope) to become divisive or factional about, say, growing veggies and selling it for crypto.
Then govt decides to overtax you (see roman history), your chosen cryptocurrency is being banned (but you are given a govt sanctioned shitcoin) and Monsanto sues you over your crops?
Then it sounds like i’ll need a highly networked grey market in order to survive :)
And this saves you from oppressive govt policies? In late roman times peasants were forced (threat of death) to stay on their farm and produce food for the masses in the cities
I mean, don't get me wrong, it could be a nice step in the right direction to be closer to natural processes, less direct state involvement and so on. But the bad guys want their share
Another thing that seems big in agorism is printable guns. So come and try and take my crops Monsanto.
Monsanto outsources this collection to some government stooge. If you shoot him (and your crappy gun does not blow up in your hand), they will bring in the tanks if need be.
yes, ultimately tank beats pistol. I could argue that low-tech guerrilla warfare beats expensive high-tech occupation but it’s a tangent.
Few are likely to take to the hills to fight a crappy-but-liveable government. The great thing about counter-economics is anyone can do it to any degree.
it’s a way to gently push back against gov overreach without going full outlaw, that very few folk from anywhere on the political spectrum could find objectionable.
We need to Evolve from "civil disobedience" up to "civil abandonment".
Replace everything they rely upon with systems which defy centralization.
Patience. Those of the masses I know have not even softened to the idea of resisting at all. Without the masses on your side, you have little chance of success.
The hardest truth of all.
BCH < USD ? ok
Just a fun hobby
but turning that tide
is like solving an absurdly difficult crossword puzzle.
My current task is especially exciting.
Of course there is nothing wrong with having alternatives ready for people to join when they realize that what they are supposed to accept is oppression. And sowing seeds early is good
This approach seems more in accordance with Wu Wei, and with what Gandhi (which seems to have been successful in nonviolent resistance) did. Hard to be sure, but it could work
Gandhi's salt march is the poster child for effective counter economic resistance.
