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Communist countries are good examples of this. And promoting the state for the state's sake is of course meaningless. But a strong state can be useful, like if attacked by a big group.And this potential problem with my thinking I have not analysed enough. Maybe the problem is the thoughtless promotion of the state, where the individual is forgotten that is bad.Or maybe we live in a world that has become too complicated, so in everyday life we just cannot keep up with the world and still maintain philosophical purity.