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That map is wrong in some cases. I'm sorry but Canada has over 80% of its power from carbon free sources. That alone makes me doubt its accuracy.
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Canada also has a tar sands problem, not sure what kind of biased sources you're referencing
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Very true. Alberta has been a problem. That said the chart has some significance signficant rounding errors. Likely rounding some down and aims up to put them at the same percentage.
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...well yeah, it doesn't display any decimals, so of course the ratios aren't exact lol
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Which is mostly what I was getting at. Especially when it puts us at the same level as the USA which also has oil production, but a far dirtier grid.
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Canada *is* at the same level as the US in terms of **per capita** CO2 emissions.



I've linked several sources on this, you're not listening Sam
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Go Canada! #i♥globalwarming
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This is the first link of yours I have seen. I wonder what the emissions could possibly be coming from. Energy is the biggest CO2 source, and we are over 80% CO2 free with our power.
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https://memo.cash/post/a41bcf3b501b1fb6c5c12fa954e73d7012d45e15b0ce6d537e76c5ffa5441fed

"This is because it’s a vast country with a small population and abundant natural resources..
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that are spread across its wilderness, which means it has proportionally high emissions from transport, industry and energy."

It's because it's CO2 emissions:share of world population
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Looked through the link. It seems it is mostly Alberta and Saskatchewan. If those two provinces changed, and quit electing right wing nut jobs, then Canada's CO2 would drop.
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Canada doesn’t have to do shit until India and China get their mordor-like countries in shape.
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China is actually the world leader at pushing renewables. They have huge solar farms. They are dirty ad hell, but are doing more than most nations to get cleaner.
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When they reach a comparable level to Canada, we’ll go full on clean initiative. Doing so right now would hinder our economy and allow India and China to go scott free.
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No, the problem is too significant for any nations to gold back and wait. It would hurt our economy worse to continue to invest in a dying industry. We need to shut down the tar sands.
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I wonder if that graph counts methane, and counts the melting permafrost as a source. Or agriculture. Or something besides CO2. Methane is a problem, but not like CO2 is.
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That said it is just a graph of which nations are indulstriasued and consumes a lot of energy. Nothing wrong with energy, the source is what matters.
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...it's not about energy consumption at all lol. It's charting **CO2 emissions:global population** lol. I thought you were smarter than this, Sam
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https://bit.ly/2CLgc2J

https://bit.ly/2ObUFnj

Canada doesn't put out the same amount of pollution as China, but China has a way larger share of the global population
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China is not only the worst polluter... they have no environmental controls and yes my friend... they are way worse...they also cheat their data.
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Yes, China is the biggest polluter, but also has the largest population of any country

The map is a representation of the ratio of CO2 emissions to the percentage of global population
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Apologies for chiming in on every convo, something from your content is making me feel really small this evening Commiserating helps, but I can’t shake this desperate notion of shame
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No need to apologize, and no individual should feel shame. Most pollution is the result of runaway military/corporate lobbying, not the consumers who had no choice because of it
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For example, if oil corps hadn't been buying more efficient engine designs and suppressing climate change research, we could have done something by now. We need to unite against this
BMT322
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Smog levels and air pollutants that rival the quality of Los Angeles.
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The image fails to mention what 'fair share' means. It cited some papers, but is it so hard to mention it in the image?
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Lol it does, read the text directly above and below the map


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