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vaccines do not reduce spread, even manufacturers dont claim that
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Its not a physical barrier preventing the virus, but it does mean the virus is in people and able to spread for less time, which does reduce the spread. Not sure how you're confused.
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you are fantasizing, where is the data on reducing spread?
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In every bit of data on the infection rates. We can see how vaccinated populations get infected less, and are harmed less. There is no data showing otherwise.
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Maybe you are confused by the similarity in infection rates during lockdowns and vaccinated populations out of lockdown as the same. It shows the vaccination is comparable to lockdowns
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where can you see that data?
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In all places it is collected. John Hopkins website is the best place to seethe collected data.
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but you unable to find it?
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yes, I need a link on vaccines reducing spread, this is not it.

Vaccine literally useless:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/
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At least they explain their method so you can point to the obvious flaws I already highlighted before. They do not consider the conditions related to the spread.
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All they are showing is that places with high vaccination rates, that have also listen social restrictions, have the expected increase in infection rates.
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They ignore the influence of lockdowns and social restrictions in the data, and the comparability of those restrictions with vaccine efficacy. Their method is flawed.
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Look into any scientific endeavour and you will see argument and disagreement. You then try to use that to support your own conclusions which are not supported even by your link.
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This shows the vaccine is of anything slightly less effective than total lockdowns. Not that the vaccines are ineffective. Do you have anything that supports your conclusions?