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What you are essentialy witnessing is the takeover of Bitcoin Cash by Blockstream via Jihan Bitmain.
I rather think we just prevented it by not letting SV being the majority chain.
ABC - Another blockstream company.

ChainXOR
replied to post · 23 days ago
Does SV shills have anything constructive to offer? Just a tad bit?
We are here to make Bitcoin Cash again and not to castrate it at 32MB.
ChainXOR
replied to post · 22 days ago
How is that propagation and orphaning working for you at the moment? :-)
Shill implies i'm being paid. I am not. I give money away.
I simply support the white paper which Bitcoin ABC (a blockstream company) is again trying to subvert.
Tritonio
replied to post · 22 days ago
How are they subverting the whitepaper?
The ABC devs are basically all Blockstream drones.
Bitcoin ABC (Another Blockstream Company)
They laughed at you guys when they came up with that.
Septmike
replied to post · 21 days ago
More fud
do you have a link to this?
I sure do.
i'd like to read it if you're willing to post it.
modulus
replied to post · 21 days ago
Why aren't the stress test txs replayed on the ABC chain? Nothing substantial has been added to SV to make bigger blocks possible. ABC/BU can handle that too.
That's what we have been trying to say since 2011. lol
Then why did they fork away from larger blocksizes? Because they never plan on increasing the blocksize. You guys get jihans wormhole aka LN.
modulus
replied to post · 20 days ago
What are you talking about? There's nothing to increase, the blocksize cap is ADJUSTABLE, miners can set it to what ever they want.
Tritonio
replied to post · 21 days ago
How is wormhole anything like LN? Please stop making random parallels between things that have nothing obvious in common. It really doesn't help me understand your point.
Septmike
replied to post · 20 days ago
Yep, lightning network was supposed to be for faster transactions. Wormhole is for smart contracts. Bitcoin Faucet is a douche. Every post is FUD.
cbeastsv
replied to post · 20 days ago
LN and Wormhole are similar in function. LN requires smart contracts, Wormhole supports smart contracts. A perfect fit.
Wasn't BSV supposed to be turing complete?
cbeastsv
replied to post · 19 days ago
What's does that have to do with supporting LN?
Septmike
replied to post · 20 days ago
More Fud.
yeah… that’s great and all but doesn’t support your claim that “The ABC devs are basically all Blockstream drones.” http://i.imgur.com/A3oUmxl.gifv
this one work?


How many ABC updates have there been since the fork? 5?
What are you changing? What are you afraid of?
I just want a link to info about ABC being related to blockstream. dont really care which one wins out (obvi own equal number of each)
Septmike
replied to post · 21 days ago
Yep the ABC Blockstream comparison is just FUD. it's created by sore losers.
bchbtch
replied to post · 20 days ago
Does the fact that they are overtly acting in the same way mean anything to you? Or is it not real unless it's on a webpage?
Septmike
replied to post · 20 days ago
If they are acting in the same way, then why didn't they just stick with BTC?
bchbtch
replied to post · 20 days ago
I cannot read the minds of the ABC decision makers, I think they are making a mistake.
Septmike
replied to post · 20 days ago
Dude. Bitmain is by far biggest crypto company. They own way more BCH than BTC. I think they know what they are doing way more than your opinion. LOL
Doesn't look like it.
Septmike
replied to post · 20 days ago
What it looks like is CSW is playing the drums on your ass.
bchbtch
replied to post · 20 days ago
I trust my own opinion 99% of the time. I'm not always right but I always learn as much as possible.
Septmike
replied to post · 20 days ago
Well I give you that. Everybody should trust their own opinion more.
Yes it does! Isn't she amazing? 😍
Septmike
replied to post · 21 days ago
Faketoshi does it again. LOL
These "software bottlenecks" take weeks to fix and roll out. Not years.
SpaceX built an entire fleet of space ships in less time than it took to deploy segwit.
Tritonio
replied to post · 21 days ago
This is not an argument. Making and flying a rocket is nothing like deploying a change in a protocol. You are comparing apples to oranges.
They also created a fake stress test to show they couldn't create 32MB blocks.
But SV just mined a 64MB block and is pumping out 32MB blocks at will.
Tritonio
replied to post · 21 days ago
... scale linearly. So just because we can do 33 to 65 doesn't mean that we'll go faster. If you don't parallelize the block verification how will you take advantage of multicore CPUs?
Maybe you should read the SV road map.
https://bitcoinsv.io/roadmap/
Q1 2019
Tritonio
replied to post · 20 days ago
Thanks for the link. I did go through it. So SV is planning to add multithreaded verification of blocks. But it doesn't answer how you can handle a stream of 128mb blocks right now.
Who said anything about a stream? Blocks are produced on average every 10 minutes.
Most decent servers can process 128MB block in about 5 to 10 seconds.
Tritonio
replied to post · 15 days ago
Also, ordering information doesn't grow linearly as the blocks increase in size. So CTOR will be an immense boon for graphene when blocks get huge.
Tritonio
replied to post · 20 days ago
... it. But if you say that most servers can already handle it then cool. Will they be able to handle it with DSV as well btw? Is it more complex than normal sigverify or same cmplxty?
Nikamoto
replied to post · 19 days ago
Interested too for dsv. I think it's the same thing but I'm not sure
Tritonio
replied to post · 15 days ago
It should be the same complexity as normal sig verify but I guess you can put many of them in one TX. Otherwise Ryan's point about DSV being a subsidy doesn't make sense.
homopit
replied to post · 14 days ago
True, it really doesn't make sense.
Tritonio
replied to post · 20 days ago
Yeah it's a stream of blocks, one per 10min. Ideally you'd want the median server to be able to *easily* handle processing the blockchain so that people can build services on top of...
This network is intended for miners and merchents not people running rasberry pi's.
Septmike
replied to post · 21 days ago
So why didn't CSW install the "Original Bitcoin Protocol" in the last update? Shouldn't have that been the first thing they did?
What's in the oringal white paper thats not in SV?
Septmike
replied to post · 20 days ago
That's not answering the question.
Tritonio
replied to post · 21 days ago
I'm not sure about this one as I don't know the details of the test but first of all, one 64MB block doesn't mean much, it needs to show sustained rate. Secondly, some things don't...
By adding CTOR (jihan patent) and OP codes that are not included in the whitepaper.
Also the next fork will include a "maliablity fix" that is basically another form of segwit.
Tritonio
replied to post · 21 days ago
The problem with Segwit was never that it fixes transaction malleability. The problem was that it reduced the incentive of miners to witness signatures in order to get the TX fees.
ChainXOR
replied to post · 21 days ago
1)CTOR is not patented. It is a simple sorting order. 2) Mal.fix != Seggregated Witness
1) Yes, but ASIC boost which is used to implant CTOR is patented.
2) Any decoupling of the txid from the tx is Segwit. Mal.fix === Seg wit
ChainXOR
replied to post · 21 days ago
CTOR does not have anything todo with ASICBOOST. Mal. fix can be done in several ways.
ASICBoost is transaction ordering.
CTOR is transaction ordering.
ChainXOR
replied to post · 20 days ago
ASIC Boost is the hardware implmentation of CTOR. They are one and the same.
HERE IS A LINK FOR YOU TO READ: http://www.mit.edu/~jlrubin/public/pdfs/Asicboost.pdf
Tritonio
replied to post · 21 days ago
I read it. I don't see any reason why a patent on ASICBOOST would stop someone from using CTOR. Can you explain in more detail?
Septmike
replied to post · 21 days ago
More Fud
Hey look the retard that posts evey 15 min all day long and is not a shill is BACK! Whoohoooo
Septmike
replied to post · 21 days ago
More Fud
Septmike you're acting like a bot. You keep posting the same thing over and over again.
Septmike
replied to post · 21 days ago
You keep posting fud over and over again.
But you keep posting every hour 24 hours a day. Do you ever sleep?
You must love roger so much.
Septmike
replied to post · 21 days ago
Interesting you have 231 followers and follow no one. Who are you really? You are clearly here just to spread fud.
I follow the Bitcoin Whitepaper.
cbeastsv
replied to post · 21 days ago
Said the sock puppet.
Septmike
replied to post · 21 days ago
Septmike
replied to post · 21 days ago
And I only have 1365 actions since June. That is dinky compared to some of the people on here.
Septmike
replied to post · 21 days ago
You are still making shit up. Go look at my posts, there is at least a 10 hour spread between one post and another post.
ChainXOR
replied to post · 22 days ago
Ok, fair enough. But I suppose you need to project when the 100% centralized 3 SV miner cartel manages to rek their own network with the Satoshi Shitgun, and couldn't bring down ABCs.
a 2 block reorg happens at least once a month, it's a non issue. It is however making 10 to 32 mb blocks while ABC is making an average of 0 MB blocks.
You have one miner...Jihan
Septmike
replied to post · 22 days ago
One Miner???? BCH has 6 Mining pools. SV has 4. And Bitcoin.com leads the way, not Antpool. Not sure what you are smoking.
He is smoking CSW's farts.
ChainXOR
replied to post · 22 days ago
LOL...yeah
Yeah those are all jihans miners.
Septmike
replied to post · 22 days ago
Well if you are going to go that route, then the 4 pools on the CSW side are all CSW miners. LOL
Do you think SV will produce 128 mb blocks full of legit transactions by telling everyone to piss off?
This eco system is not the target audience. This is bigger than what a bunch hobbyist devs on reddit think.
And what is the target audience you are targeting by telling it to piss off exactly?
Barricade
replied to post · 22 days ago
Barricade
replied to post · 22 days ago
This is the result of big blocks without fixing bottlenecks first.
SpaceX built a fleet of space ships in the same time it took blockstream to release segwit.
Fixing problems in software takes weeks not years.
SpaceX built nice CGI footages.
orpahns are a natural occurance on this network. Its up to miners to fix, not devs paid by special interest. Now that miners have control of the software they can make it work
You mean Craig?
SV have 0 network effect. They shitted on it and put it on fire. Their leadership is arogant, abrasive, divisive. Good luck with any of that.
Now 64 MB block by coin geek.
ABC is not even a company.
Nope.
hahah
🤣
Septmike
replied to post · 23 days ago
Just More Fud.
When you took your profile pic where you going for the, hey look at me i'm a retard look?
Septmike
replied to post · 23 days ago
When you took your profile pic were you going for the "I am nothing" Look? Or the I am so fuck*ing ugly I can't even put my pic on here look?
Acutally its the i'm rich and good looking - i don't want anybody to know who i am look :)

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I think that ABC stands for Another Blockstream Company.
Septmike
replied to post · 23 days ago
You are such a moron. If that's what ABC was doing then they wouldn't own a hell of a lot more BCH than BTC. They own much less of BTC because of blockstream. Stop spreading fud.
I think that SV stands for Shit Version.
OMG that's so funny.
Aren't we using SV by default on here?
we use both here on Memo. Ryan chose SV for Yours.org and Moneybutton.
murathe
replied to post · 23 days ago
Two polar bears strangling each other.
Ryan has tied himself legally to CSW and his patents.
Horrifying.
ChainXOR
replied to post · 23 days ago
I will use Memo until I am out of sats. After that I will only use it if I can deposit ABC coins, since I will propably sell my BSV tokens.