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They aren't vaccines. Do you know what therapy means? That's what this is, gene therapy, a medical treatment. Therapy. To affect disease outcome. Nobody redefined any terms.Prove mRNA jabs stimulate immunity and disrupt transmission, then I'll accept your accusation of being "anti-vaxxer". Until then you're anti-science. Discrediting doctors isn't science
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It is not a gene therapy at all. It affects the disease outcome by having shown your immune system an inactive form of the virus to let your body develop immunity. Aka a vaccine.Vaccines disrupt transmission only through reaching your body to have a faster immune response. No vaccine has some secondary mechanism for preventing transmission.
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That's not an acceptable answer. You're still the anti-science for discrediting over 10k health pros advocating focused protection, and everyone else who doesnt fit your believe systemIt's stimulating cell to become a pathogen creator. mRNA gene therapy. "Waning" immunity ad doesnt transmit disruption. They don't work. Your 20 times safer story is just some bullshit
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Your false dichotomy doesn't fit. Focused protection was always going on, as well as general protection.
How the vaccine provides the important spike protein is irrelevant.My 20 times safer number comes from a doctor who investigates and litigates against big pharma. He pushes for more healthy living than medicine. He acknowledges the vaccines effective.
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I think it's important.
https://www.swfinstitute.org/news/91484/scientists-discover-dna-chunk-in-covid-that-matches-moderna-patented-sequence-from-before-pandemic
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Why do you think that?
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You're so good at making assumptions, but you can't figure out the relevance? There's only a one-in-three-trillion chance that sequence randomly appeared through natural evolution.
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I was asking you to link it to what we were discussing, but I get that you deflect and distract when you realise your argument failed.As for this article making claims about some study, it is meaningless. As with most articles the scientists likely are not saying what the article claims.You need to learn to listen to scientists rather than articles making claims about studies.
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Quoting an article is not making claims. Bad bot.
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You quoted the claim. It is a claim.

Poor advertising is irrelevant. It is misleading as well, immunity doesn't wane. The current antibody count does though, as it should.
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"Among the 4,206 Germans infected with Omicron for whom their vaccination status was known, 95.58% were fully vaccinated. More than a quarter of them had booster shots."
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"Given that the overall background rate for vaccination in Germany is 70%, this means that the shots now have a -87% effectiveness rate against Omicron".
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I am surprised their vaccination rate is so low, at 75% fully vaccinated.
Bow look at the numbers in the ICU's, and that vaccination rate. That is how you see the vaccine effectivenessIn BC, Canada, about 91% are fully vaccinated, and while most people in the hospital are vaccinated, it is the ICU's that have mostly unvaccinated people. That is the point of vaccines
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No that's not the point of vaccines. You're proving my point again. You can't prove that the mRNA gene therapeutics provide immunity and disrupt transmission.
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Yes, that is the point of all vaccines. To prepare your immune system to do the work. The data proves the vaccine works. Your attempt to deny the numbers is amusing though.


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