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To be clear I am not counting it high on the morality scale. It is just a general "hey, we are all paying our share. You should too." I cant help but think we benefit from government.
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Where is the should?
I don't have a choice. If I did, then we could talk "should".
I'm stolen from regardless.
That's the problem to begin with.
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You kind of do have a choice. Black market incomes are not taxable. Some choose that route. Often just undocumented work, and pay under the table.
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Yes, and why should I hide and be forced to go through hoops to be free, to act or feel like I'm guilty, when the entire system that you're advocating, is immoral?
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If people require the transit system to travel they realise they must pay. You then have riders asking why they should be stolen from simply to ride. The paying riders are stolen from.
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If people require a transit system, then unless there's a monopoly on violence, there will be competing services/businesses to meet that demand.
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I was using a transit system as an analogy for city, and paying the fair as taxes. A competing system would be another location with different tax rates. Freedom of movement helps.
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We already have that.
Tax rates already differ.
And are still involuntary.
You think the theft keeps society together and that it's therefore not theft. Right?
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More than it funds the services the people demand. Since the people demand those services the collection of taxes to pay for them is not theft. It is payment for services rendered.
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The system is moral. The only theft is from those not paying into the system. Like some public transit, paying is on the honor system. If no one paid the transit wouldnt work.
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The system is immoral. The theft is from those who do not consent and are included anyway.
If payment was on the honor system, people would not be included without consent.
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The theft from the system is immoral. The theft is from those who contribute, while one decided to not contribute. It is leeching off others.
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I wish I could "steal" by not contributing.
If I could I would not be talking about anarchism. It would be pointless.
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Not entirely pointless. By advocating your position you do exert a small amount of influence on the system. If more wanted thig as you do things would move that way.
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I hope eventually that more, including yourself and others, do too. This nightmare has gone on long enough.
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I use to lean more that way, but since becoming a father, and home owner, I fell much more inclined to let the status quo continue.