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What I don't like about BUIP143 is that some BU devs want it to give them "carte blanche" to do a soft-fork against donation addresses.

I'm not at all sure that's needed, or a prudent countermeasure.

My thoughts

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sickpig
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Agreed on both main points you made. Blacklisting would be near impossible to implement *and* it introduces a new validation criteria as IFP proposal would have had.
sickpig
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BUIP143 may have had an effect in helping IFP proponents to re-evaluate, thou
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oh yes, definitely
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There is another major point, which occurred to me, which I will add as item 11/
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I know the IFP proposal seems to be losing support, but let's examine theoretically if BTC.top & others went ahead and set up their plan & code in ABC to pay to a HK fund address.

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Now imagine BU sets up their code using BUIP143 as justification to soft-fork in a rule which orphans any blocks containing the "HK fund address(es)" advertised in ABC code.

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A lot has been said about "optics" of the IFP proposal (tax-like, non-debate theory etc).

But what about the optics of adding a address-based blacklist to BCH (BU) code?
Not good!

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If we want to keep a "tax free", non-discriminatory incentive structure on BCH, I'm not for such a blacklist, and I am contemplating putting up a counter-BUIP to express that.

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Blacklists don't work well.

"The cartel" could make their code have a flexible mechanism, distributing "approved" donation addresses among their members (pools, exchanges etc).

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One possible BU defense would be a further SF to restrict CB outputs to a address, but I'm sure you can see how that would be another bad move (think existing donations & optics).

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As I see it, such soft-forks would work against the ideals of BU to bolster and not to degrade the existing p2p cash system.

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I opened another BUIP, it would ask to release a May version that contains any non-controversial updates, but simply not include orphaning based on some involuntary CB payouts.

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In other words, to do on BU what this article is proposing to do with the ABC codebase in such a case:

https://read.cash/@SharkySharkdog/you-lead-and-maybe-i-will-follow-ff383504

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Finally, another major reason not to go down the road to blacklisting any coinbase outputs:

I believe it would open the door to more requests from regulators / governments. Eeek.

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Link to Memo poll on whether I should open another BUIP unless BUIP143 is amended.

https://memo.cash/post/05213910f1d09a05b781efaa75f12b1d8352ee99b58db70942c6c33a966845e6

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sickpig
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makes sense to make it explicit but to my eyes this come bundle w/ blacklisting. You basically introduce a precedent and remove plausible deniability when it will be most needed.
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After discussion on the BU forum re: BUIP143, I've received a statement from Greg Griffith that "blacklisting addresses was [...] not on the table".

This puts me a bit more at rest.