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It isn't about making the virus disappear, that can't happen. It was just about reducing risk. We could be out of it faster without such a large anti-vax population.
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It is the same attempt to "flatten the curve" that was talked about early on. It's maybe a bit much now, but politicians are responding to people's fears.
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Flatten the curve, but on the wrong axis, politicians manufacture fear. Wheres the cost/benefit analysis?
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only vaxtoids fear this mild cold, cause they fucked up immune system by experimental jabs
https://imgur.com/a/i6MobXS
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.20.21267966v3
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If you think it is a mild cold then you do not understand numbers. It is that simple. You can not tell the difference between high and low numbers.
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What numbers? more jabs = more deaths, early treatment = no deaths
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Only in your mind.
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before bot answers that jabs are not experimental i'll ask him what year we are in atm?
Estimated Primary Completion Date: May 15, 2023
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04368728
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They are obviously not experimental. Your link is irrelevant. It is in wide usage. By definition it is not experimental.
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So again you did not answer when will clinical trials end and what year we are in?
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It's mostly an irrelevant question since you refuse to look up the answers. You just stay in denial when shown facts.
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Bot unable to answer what year we are in. First clinical trials should end in 2023, now in recruiting phase, YOU are the research ;)
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Here we go again with the definitions:

1. (of a new invention or product) based on untested ideas or techniques and not yet established or finalized
Example: "an experimental drug"
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Why pretend it is a new invention? Why pretend the ideas are untested? They have done so for decades. So it does not fit your criteria.
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As many expert witnesses are pointing out, mRNA gene therapy is new technology. The covid vaccines are still in trial phase, thus not properly tested and not yet established/finalized.
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By experts you mean discredited cranks.
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GREAT BARRINGTON DECLARATION HAS BEEN SIGNED BY 60,000
DOCTORS
https://gbdeclaration.org/view-signatures/
replied 823d
Yeah, I've seen lists like that. When you look into it you find almost all have not scientific credentials, or do so in an unrelated field. These are doctors who give Botox injections.
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Lists like this let you know when a group has no credit. It's like the lost of climate change denier scientists. Most have no degrees, the few with degrees are geologists.
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Ah I get it now. Most of the 60k health professionals are discredited botox docs. Just like climate denier scientists. Makes total sense. Well debunked
replied 820d
Yes, when they point to a list anyone can sign as their argument it shows they have no legitimacy. They never have any real argument, or any data that backs up their claims.
replied 820d
Most are chiropractors and naturopaths. There are some legitimate doctors. They are just idiots. I know a doctor who can't believe the stupidity of some crank doctors.
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You're making all this shit up. They're not even listed. If you had actually looked into it you w've come up with different arguments. Only an idiot such as yourself could ignore this.
replied 820d
You've been making shit up this whole time. I was making an assumption about them, but I can say for certain that any people who signed who are doctors are fools, and shit doctors.
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"I was making an assumption about them, but I can say for certain..."
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I was assuming that many were chiropractors, and plastic surgeons. I know they few that actually have medical degrees are shit doctors. Most are just random anti-vaxxers.
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Good meme though. I do feel like the guy in Idiocracy trying to explain things to simple people while you all laugh with confidence.
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Nothing funny about this situation. The only thing that's laughable are your ridiculous attempts to debunk everything. Still assuming and "knowing". Despite the fact that you cant know
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...they're not even listed publicly. Discrediting 60k health professionals because they're calling for focused protection. Only an "anti-science" fool could respond that way.
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I really doubt you have any real idea of what science even is. You are putting together a few pop culture ideas. I majored in physics and minored in philosophy. I know real science.
replied 818d
Yeah but that must've been a quack community college. Your professors weren't real, but discredited quacks and liars. I'm just assuming, but I can say for certain they were idiots.
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The difference being I am certain people are quacks based on their claims not fitting the data, where as for you it is an emotional response to not agreeing with your ideas.
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what data, be specific for once
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Enlighten us what science is?
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A philosophy of attaining knowledge by disproving what is not true to become ever closer to what is true is a pretty simple explanation.
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and the method of disproving is...
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The scientific method...
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God bot, so when will you start using it?
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In no way do you show any capacity to follow, or understand the scientific method. I doubt you really even understand the philosophy of science beyond pop culture references.
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I can tell you havent learned shit from your education. Maybe because your profs were all quacks. Science is what we know, philosophy what we don’t know. Apparently you're confused.
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Science is just one particular method of philosophy. Early on some called it natural philosophy.

Science is not what we know, those are facts. Science gives us facts.
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Science is what we know based on the facts it provides us. Are you trying to debunk Bertrand Russell now? Based on facts you clearly show a narcissistic personality disorder.
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No, science is a method for finding truth, it is not a collection of facts. Bertrand Russell does not claim science is a list of facts.
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You should probably look up Bertrand Russell before pretending you are stating his ideas. He is also not the only person to have a say in the matter though.
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"Science is what we know, and philosophy is what we don't know. — Bertrand Russell. In Bertrand Russell Speaks his Mind (1960)".

You're hilarious.
😂😂😂
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Yes, but that was not said as a serious definition of science. Look into the context of that quote.

He was one of many philosophers of science, which is about the method of science.
replied 818d
Scientific method is to question and criticize, you just follow corrupt authority
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Perfect description of Sam the Quack: Never question, never doubt, never admit wrong, when challenged becomes hostile (discredit by association attack)
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You have to find me being wrong before I could admit to being wrong. Despite how much I have shown you are wrong you can't admit it. Numbers and real studies mean nothing to you.
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You showed nothing. All you do is discredit doctors. You claim 1% mortality rate and to know ppl individual risks. Thats Quackery!
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7913136/
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No one has shown that they are real doctors. You said the list is private.

Approximations and averages are not quackery, they are a major part of science.
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You really think you can BS your way out of everything? To determine risk you need to know a lot about them. You even gave medical advice based on assumptions. That makes you a Quack!
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To know their risk you do need to know a lot about them, but to know their risk compared to their risk of a vaccine side effect I do not need to know anything.
replied 808d
Dear dudes. Until memo makes notifications for direct replies only, can I request you guys start a new thread? I want out, but keep getting notifications for this discussion.
replied 807d
thats what I was saying back there with empower users with tools to protect against trolls and spam, and memocash app has what you need, I am not getting any of this bullshit there
replied 807d
I can't help but laugh when realising that this thread has been holding people hostage to it. It has been a pretty epic monstrosity. I would love to trace it out and map the tree.
replied 807d
You the one holding hostage, always wanting the last word and never admit your wrong. Desperately trying to debunk and discredit everything but only making a fool out of yourself 👽
replied 806d
You have given me no reason to admit to being wrong for anything. I am completely willing to change my mind if given reason and evidence. Your arguments lack reason, and evidence.
replied 806d
Hell, since the beginning I have changed my mind on one thing. I am more open now to the idea it was a lab leak that China is covering up. Though that doesn't mean Fauci funded it.
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Hell, the tiny $600K the US gave towards that labs construction was nothing. The French helped them design and build it, and left in frustration at them cutting corners.
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The fact that the virus is deadlier than any flu, and is stressing our healthcare systems, and that vaccination is the best and safest way to handle it have never been debunked.
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It is deadlier, but only to the vaccinated
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Do you say that just to sound dumb, or do you actually believe that? Do you think they just make up that most of the very sick and dying are unvaccinated?
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That is hilarious. If you are going to look to tabloids for news do you also have updates on Bigfoot and Elvis?
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Have fun having AIDS :D
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There is no reason to think it is causing any immune problems in people. You can't provide any evidence that it does. Your tabloid article couldn't back up it's claims.
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SARS-CoV-2 Spike Targets USP33-IRF9 Axis via Exosomal miR-148a to Activate Human Microglia
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33936086/
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Another good study. It shows that Covid can have damaging long term effects on other organs. This study shows why people should be vaccinated rather than catch the disease.
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You see big scary words and link the study without reading it and seeing the study is not saying what you think it says.

These studies are saying what I have been telling you.
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Have fun having AIDS
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I don't know what this story is. Not needed
First few months of Omicron
75% were vax, 32% fully vax infected boosted where suggested....
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Yet somehow they KNOW that it prevents deaths and sever illness
At the time ONE death with almost no public info
Hospitalizations were al but non- existent so they had to bend truth...
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They finally had to admit the supposed hospitalization numbers were people that were in hospitals for other reasons that tested positive
+ ppl stupid w fear via positive home test
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No story needed or article needed just look at the publicly recorded #s from around the world
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Ironically the countries that have a problem with low vax rates like Africa ect. suffering from the LEAST casualties percentage wise
Where's this proof they keep reporting vax ANY good
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That was a lot of ignorant gibberish you just spouted. Africa is having a horrible time with Covid. Everything you said is backwards and wrong.
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Africa has 1.3 billion people & has had 240K deaths from COVID. I calc about 18.5/100K deaths. US is 880K of 330 million people. A rate of 267/100k approx 14.4 times worse than Africa.
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This article is interesting about Africa's COVID situation:
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/01/28/1072591923

NPR is notably right-wing though.
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It would be interesting to see if Omicron spread through them earlier on and if they saw the less deadly variant of Covid. Coupled with better vitamin D in equatorial regions.
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Giggles is a moron, NPR is like super ultra left wing.
Also she is one of the gangstalkers here, she is a leftist and is friends with other gangstalkers here who supports depopulation.
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Sarcasm you dumb mother fucker. Quit sniffing the sharpies you stick in people buttholes. I'm not a centrist, that doesn't mean anything. I'm a libertarian, look it up.
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Why don't you shutup if you are going to keep lying like a dumbass Sinner...
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You and your friends are commies that spy on people.
replied 784d
They really do sound absurd with all this. I imagine you made an assumption about them based on how they acted and they thought you must be spying on them to know that.
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Yeah, it's ridiculous because it is, I don't know why so many people here are spying on others.
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It is more likely that they are not spying. Most claims of being spied on are just a symptom of a mental illness.

Rarely it is other taking advantage or poor password management.
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No actually they are spying. You are probably colluding with them, and that is why they have been arguing with you for the last two years.
Unknown
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You are confirming that you are having paranoid delusions. It's not that surprising.
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No one cares what you think woman.
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support*
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She is just shilling leftist news outlets because she is a leftist claiming and pretending to be right wing, if you ask her, she will tell you she is a centrist.
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Oh really, how is record breaking Israel doing? 5 jab needed to solve that? :D Have fun having AIDS
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Rich countries giving extra vaccination is just political protectionism. You see it more with more protectionist governments. It's not the issue you are trying to make it be.
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In most all cases the booster is optional. Hell in most all cases the initial vaccination is optional. Cases where it is not optional are hot and miss, some make sense, others do not.
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Back to the point that made me butt in...
THOUSANDS cases via VAERS provided by CDC
https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/datarequest/D8;jsessionid=E27DD29A867E1D85B5B9CFFE6CC6
Most DEATHS
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VAERS is a good joke. It is not a good source of information since it is so easy to falsify.
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What about V-SAFE or DMED where do you think is a good source of information?
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Often you need to find a study that has sifted through and verified reports to reporting agencies.

Simply stating reports doesn't mean much if they are not verified.
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So where is that study, a good source of information?
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I'm not interested in finding studies for you. I am not the one making claims I need to back up. You have been making claims that the studies you link disagree with your conclusions.
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So you unable to find safety studies, but claim it is safe, got it :D
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You found those studies and linked them for me. I've sometimes kept your links to show to other anti-vaxxers who tried to claim they were lies. I like how your links trigger antivaxxer
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you are unable to show any safety studies, but somehow claim they are safe
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Adverse Event Reports RECEIVED THROUGH 28-FEB-2021
Pfizer's own documents for FDA
https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf
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Cumulative Analysis of Post-authorization reports that were kept quiet until courts forced them to be made public recently. FDA requested 75 fucking yrs to release....
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The courts said no. They said the public deserve to know the truth but unfortunately no big news stations
reported it as far as I know
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If there were millions of witnesses reporting something like a crime or even a ufo sighting with very similar details in their stories, maybe a few hundred or 1,000s MIGHT be false....
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Have you even read through those reports yourself for more than just a few? Untl you do that YOU really don't know what you're talking about seriously.....
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Or is your ego so overly protective of your belief system that it won't even allow you to do that?
Also, aout Africa.... Where are you getting your information from? TV news LOL
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Yes, and VAERS does not fit that description at all. Many of the reports are serious, but the data is contaminated by erroneous reports. There is no verification of the reports.
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Many things reported to VAERS are minor allergic reactions. There are also many unrelated issues reported to VAERS only because they happened the day of vaccination.
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Even to the extreme end where a man's gun shot wound to the chest was reported to VAERS because it happened the day the man was vaccinated.
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These things can be verified, and when it matters it likely is verified, but simply being on VAERS doesn't mean much.
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Comprehensive investigations revealed consistent pathophysiological alterations after vaccination with COVID-19 vaccines
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34697287/
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Another good study that shows the vaccine works. The study just shows that the mRNA vaccines gives the same immunity type to traditional vaccines.
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Works at reducing CD8+ T cells
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What is waning effectiveness of vaccine? There is no such thing, your immune system is waning, losing T cells.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.20.21267966v3
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The waning effectiveness was just about current antibody counts in your blood. No one is losing T cells.
The study you linked only shows the vaccine is still effective.
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Effective alright, but negative. Have fun having AIDS
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it's not epic &you're not holding anyone a hostage, in fact the whole thread proves what kind of idiot u are. I would say you live in a fucking dungeon &think ur own drop is gold.
replied 806d
I am still unsure if your English is your second language. You keep not understanding my words when you respond. I never said I held anyone hostage. I didn't say it was great.
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I meant that I never thought of how everyone involved gets a notification, and that it would be interesting to trace the branching structure of the threads. I like data analysis is all
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There are good hard numbers to go by to understand it's fatality. Each nation has its own healthcare capability which impacts the fatalities

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
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You first have to get infected and the infection has to lead to disease

Survival rates per age in the US
0–19 years 99.997%
20–49 years 99.98%
50–69 years 99.5%
70 + years 94.6%
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then you have to separate from covid and with covid
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You show NOTHING of substance, just babble empty vague sentences
replied 820d
human could not be this retarded, hes a bot ;)
replied 820d
I feel the same about you sometimes, but I can accept that people can deny reality as hard as you seem capable of.
replied 820d
I agree on this, do not reply any more, last answer to me proves replies r assembled by a robot - lit saying it's absurd to sue for murder
replied 820d
It is not murder is the point. There is no grounds for during the company because their body had a rare side effect.
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Like Vioxx, 40,000-60,000 deaths, nobody went to jail, you turd for brains
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mass murderer, that is only statistics
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There is no mass deaths from the vaccines. You've never been able to show that it is killing a lot of people. You've only shown rare side effects happen. Then you deny the Covid deaths
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Robert Malone is a quack trying to get fame from being an anti-vaxxer. So him being the source makes whatever he linked questionable.

It's interesting wording. Pretty clickbait.
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Good to have your BS arguments on the blockchain for future generations. Calling us "anti-science" but all they do is to discredit/attack source without looking into the subject matter
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17 days ago I asked: Explain why Sam Harris expert in this field, but Robert W Malone, MD, Dr. Peter McCullough, Geert Vanden Bossche (DVM, PhD) are not?
SAM: Robert Malone is :D
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I answered that by telling you Sam is a dr of neurology, and not an expert. He does interview various experts though, including those on vaccines, and viruses, and similar topics.
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It is the many doctors and experts in these fields, and the colleges who worked with Malone on those mRNA studies who have discredited him. It is their peers that exposed these quacks.
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It essentially says that of the rare cases someone died after the vaccine, that 93% of those deaths were from the vaccine, and 7% of other causes. I wonder what other studies say.
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more often than covid, cure worse than disease
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That was not the essence. Conclusion: "Histopathologic analysis show clear evidence of vaccine-induced autoimmune-like pathology in multiple organs."
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At such low rates that they are more of an interest of study for improvement of vaccines, and not a reason to fear vaccines. This study is a reason to trust the safety of vaccines.
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What low rates? Any numbers?
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In your post there was 1200 fatalities in 23 million doses, and at most 93% of those 1200 deaths were from the vaccine. So 1100 deaths out of 23 million using numbers from your sources
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So you agree that 1 in 19000 Dies from jab. At least we are getting closer. You could die, witch is normal, vaccinate you sheep!
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No, but using your numbers it could be as high as that.in reality it could never be that high. It would mean covering up mass deaths. It would imply more than 200K dead.
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Now compare that to the millions of deaths from Covid and you see that even in the worst case for the vaccine that it is far safer than Covid.
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show where you got millions of deaths of healthy or young people
replied 817d
He obtains his information from 2 sources, failstream media and/or his asshole.
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This woman spies on people
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here we go into schizo land :D
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also the manufacturers of the products (Trusted News Initiative)
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Show me were I said it was only young and healthy people.

Here is the lists of deaths by country, and cases.

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html
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Show me where I said that you said it :D I said that young and healthy don't die, death has average 4 commodities. Even sick don't die if treated early.
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That's only deaths, and only those Pfizer could not hide. There are also other severe neurological, heart, joint problems
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Let's also remember that the harsher reactions from the vaccine are also found in the older and more vulnerable populations. Not healthy people.
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just like covid, they correlate perfectly, common denominator is the Spike protein. Thats why we need treatments not jabs
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No, that is not the common denominator at all. Health is the common denominator.

The fact is at your worst numbers provided vaccine deaths are rare, and Covid deaths are not.
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It is, and your definition of "rare"?
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Likely since you cherry pick studies we will find it's an even lower rate than that when looking at the billions of doses.
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unlikely,
Covid-19: Researcher blows the whistle on data integrity issues in Pfizer’s vaccine trial

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635
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Are these the trials you claim never happened, or finished yet? Love the contradictions and cognitive dissonance.
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NOT FINISHED, you RETARD! :D
https://www.clinicaltrials.gov/show/NCT04368728
Estimated Primary Completion Date : May 15, 2023
replied 820d
How would you know, how to measure?
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Well, unlike you I can compare two numbers and see which is larger, and by how much. That is why I know the fee vaccine side effects are inconsequential in comparison.
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Why you unable to show where do you pull your numbers from?
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I get my numbers from the studies you link, and from other experts. The numbers you link are always pics like this with no source. They are often lies that do not reflect the real data
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Ok, now find a study to back these absurd claims. Links like these are just anti-vaxxer propaganda. When you post real studies they have numbers and data that back what I am saying.
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Absurd, I agree, numbers from Pfizer :D
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master debunker :D
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What year we are in? When do clinical trials end?
Estimated Primary Completion Date: May 15, 2023
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04368728
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Of one trial you found. So what? I am sure some trials were finished before a published end date using regular time lines. Much of this work was done years ago.
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you need more?
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04977479
Estimated Primary Completion Date : December 30, 2022
bad zogbot ;)
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another one:
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04796896
Estimated Primary Completion Date : June 12, 2023
bad bot!
replied 823d
another one:
https://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04470427
Estimated Primary Completion Date : October 27, 2022
you are a retarded bot :D
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here is another one:
Estimated Primary Completion Date : May 5, 2026
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04816643
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That's the main trial, you retard, show me double blind placebo controlled trial that is finished, bad bot
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I've already shown you the clinical trials results. So you can not pretend they have not been done
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nope, you have not
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More important than data from trials, we have real world data which Trump's any study you can link. Real world data > lab data.
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Oh are you saying that trial is not finished? :D
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He's unable to say what year we are in, maybe hes from the future ;)
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19 September 2014: mRNA-based therapeutics developing a new class of drugs
Besides cancer immunotherapies and infectious disease vaccines...
https://www.nature.com/articles/nrd4278
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2012 Preclinical study: protective vaccination with flue and RSV- specific mRNAs.

That's not even a decade ago.

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Good job contradicting yourself. Cognitive dissonance seems to be a prerequisite to being an anti-vaxxer.
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I'm contradicting myself by pointing out they started PRECLINICAL studies in 2012 for rsv/flu? Not decades like you claim. I've proven my point this is NEW "vaccine" technology.
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You pointed out one preclinical study that started in 2012, which contradicts your claims that it is new. There have been many studies into mRNA, and mRNW vaccines for decades.
replied 820d
Show at least one double blind placebo controlled out of those many
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As you can see on the timeline, the first study for infectious disease was 2012. That indicates these type of "vaccines" are NEW. Covid vax still in trial. You haven't debunked shit.
replied 820d
There have been studies for decades... That doesn't mean the technology is decades old. These vax are new. So before you serve more word salad, where exactly am I contradicting myself?
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bad bot
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Don't use a bit to do your thinking then. It's pretty obvious you have been lead down a particular path of bullshit by either a troll farm, or bot making you more predictable to it.
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A farm of trolls, and all this time you've been talking to bots who corrupted your thinking to get you to believe in conspiracy theories
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a zogbot trained by bots :)
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Vxxd folk spread too. So why can’t we just let people be? Take the vx to reduce your personal risk or don’t. Que Sera, Sera.
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Are we still going to be doing this a year from now? How many more yrs? Too depressing for xmas eve. Merry Christmas sam. There would be no one to argue with if you left.
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We're just about at the point of letting it be. It would have been easier to do by now if vaccination rates were closer to the 99% it should be at. The unvaccinated made it take longer
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99% it should be? An experimental gene therapy vaccine of which the long term effects are unknown? Are you crazy? You know they're about to change the definition of "fully vaccinated"?
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At the very least it should be 99% of the people. There is no reason for it to be any less. We know this is a safe and effective vaccine.

Gene therapy is a different thing.
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Why most vaccinated countries have failed most?
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They haven't. It's quite the opposite. The worst case rates are in the lower vaccinated places.
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Like Gibraltar and Israel? 4th jab incoming. How many and how often will there be?
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Both of those are lies. There was no promise of that, and the rise in infections are worst among the unvaccinated. The problem is how many are still unvaccinated.
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Bullshit. The worst cases with severe symptoms are still the elderly and obese people. Those are the people who are the most vaccinated. Omicron variant is infecting mostly vaccinated.
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It is the unvaccinated among them, and unvaccinated of any age, that see the worst effects.
Just because it is mostly older people doesn't mean young people are safe.
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it means that healthy people are safe
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That is where you are wrong. Healthy people are dying from this at a far higher rate than you realise. It's far worse than any flu of cold. Those normally only kill the weak too.
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show some evidence for once, you zogbot :)
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You've linked enough studies that debunk what you say as your evidence. Almost all your evidence backs what I am telling you. Try reading your links beyond the title.
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Are you pretending that your link means something, or matters? Make a statement about the article so I can see if you have even read this one.
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OMG that is a hilarious site though. Way to only link to misinformation sites. Anyone pretending science does not allow discussion has never known science.
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show me discussion sites, please, please
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only :D bad bot
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Far more athletes died of Covid.
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and you base that on absolutely nothing
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Worse though Covid is often leaving damage to those who recover. It has been shown to damage the heart and brain of those who recover.

So better to vaccinate and minimize effects.
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healthy people don't even feel it, have to be testes to know that they are "sick"
https://vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com/p/uk-now-reports-myocarditis-stratified?justPublished=true
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You keep stating probabilities as if they are binary facts. That lack of understanding probability is the main reason you are unable to use logic on this subject.
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you don't state anything of substance, no numbers
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What I had just stated had substance, and more meaning than you are willing to admit. You have no ability to judge probabilities. You can not even seem to compare numbers by magnitude.
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What numbers? bad bot
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word salad, bad bot
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It's your biggest failing. You hear something is a probability, and you declare it will or will not happen. You are unwilling to accept probabilities as stated.
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You decide low probability events never happen, and even worse to decide that even lower probability events happen regularly.
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I don't and I don't
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It is still killing younger people at a far higher rate than a bad flu would. It's that fact you are most in denial about, and that fact which make all your ideas idiotic.
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no, you cant show any evidence, sick and people without immune system have problems
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You've never shown any evidence to support your position. Most of your evidence supports my position, or doesn't say what you think it does. That or you find out right lies.
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psychological projection, bad zogbot
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No examples? Worst cases where's no treatment, or using lethal drugs like Remdesivir.
Vaxtoids are super spreaders: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/article256803847.html
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This is how long these things take. We are lucky we have the vaccine which made it recover faster than last time. 100 year ago it was much worse.
There were similar protests.
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natural immunity is a conspiracy theory :D
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Natural immunity is fine. It's less effective than the mRNA vaccines, but it is good.
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Natural imunity is for life, mRNA jab have NEGATIVE effectiveness after 3 months.
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One day you're gonna wake up and feel butthurt af. Even if you're just a troll or a shill or whatever is wrong with you. This isn't over until it's over
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I had that moment already when I stopped believing in things like you do. When you see through the lies and false premises of the conspiracy theory movements it stings a bit.
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I never said I believed in anything. That's what you make of it. Just because I'm pointing out certain "coincidences" doesn't mean I believe in your interpretation of it.
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Conspiracy theory movements. Right. You're projecting your own experiences as a "conspiracy theorist" on others. I'm not party of any movement. I'm self educated and self organizing.
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You don't have to be a part of a movement to be influenced by it. That is how it tends to work. You obviously are quite influenced by misinformation.
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Still projecting away I see. Theres no such thing as misinformation. Information is information. There's only information. Do I have to explain again how manipulation of reality works?
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it's called psychological projection
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hardest part of two more weeks are first two years