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Fnuller15
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Disheartening. I've spoken to him/her and found him/her rational, talented, and a huge asset. But I don't care for ABC or SV, so where does that leave me?
anarchovegan
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Unlimited? What do you care for?
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ABC/Unlimited/XT all use the same chain. We're all in this together. Everyone should care.
anarchovegan
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I mean, what ... which.... so, you don't like SV, and like ABC/Unlimited/XT in comparison?
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I disagree with the SV roadmap, motivations, and ethics. I disagree with ABC's knee-jerk reaction.
anarchovegan
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I agree with your disagreement. What was the knee-jerk reaction?
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The checkpoint is ok for me since we used that before and we all agree the chain is "the right one" up to that point. The reorg depth was not discussed or analyzed.
Barricade
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For me the checkpoint change was rushed, but I understand BCH was under threat. Most of the concern comes from BCV supporters: they want a chain more easy to attack.
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If some hash power from SV is enough to put BCH under threat, then we have a tremendous problem. We need to attack test net in the lab to harden against that.
Barricade
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Oh, and I forgot when they say that adding checkpoints is turning BCH into a POS coin. What Ryan wants for BSV is closer to a PoS consensus system and weakens PoW.
Benoit
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No
bchbtch
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So BCH is an economy run by the generals?
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Checkpoint was first used by Satoshi years ago. Nothing wrong with increasing blockchain security.
bchbtch
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I'm referring to the decision making process. If under attack give power to devs. Who defines an attack?
Barricade
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Devs cannot enforce miners to run their software.
bchbtch
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We've seen this a few times already early forks were overruled by Core instead of POW, segwit was soft forked in and you have to run it now. You're in denial.
Barricade
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In early forks caused by bugs miners are incentived to upgrade. Respect later forks, what was the solution? BCH. Segwit was a soft fork, is not comparable, anyway, we forked away.
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The potential attacker defined the attack this time. It was the miners who defended against this attack. The checkpoint was only a minor defense.
bchbtch
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You're just characterizing the checkpoint, not addressing the decision making behind it.
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The decision making behind it was pretty simple though. Since there was the threat of attack from dishonest miners, they imeneted some protection. It is an old concept in blockchain.
bchbtch
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I want nothing to do with "Blockchain" I want new digital money.
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Blockchain was the invention of Satoshi that solved an old computer science problem. It gave you a digital asset that could not be copied and pasted. Blockchain is what makes Bitcoin.
bchbtch
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No, POW mining is what makes Bitcoin. This is the difference between BCH and SV. SV believes in POW mining, BCH believes the whitepaper ends at pg 2.
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There is no mining, and no PoW, without a blockchain.
bchbtch
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Yes, Bitcoin uses a blockchain but didn't come up with the design the novel invention was the POW mining game. A blockchain without POW mining is only useful in niche cases.
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Satoahi invented blockchain, which is made using PoW mining. The two are the same thing. Later others invented PoS, which is only for niche cases.
bchbtch
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This is nonsense. Blockchains existed before Bitcoin, whether you know about it or not. Satoshi may have coined the term though.
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Pretty sure they didnt exist. The inventions of blockchain was the invention of Bitcoin.
anarchovegan
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Man, the speed at which knowing more of the tech details is so far past my understanding at this point...
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Definitely an SV shill. Even though he claims he isnt.