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I have participated in representative democracy myself, and cant help but see the pros outweigh the cons.
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If I and others had the choice to not be included, there would be no problem.
The entire problem is that we are included involuntarily.
Kind of a huge con... game.
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I can see that point of view, but it is due to the way the society has built up over time. It gives the society ownership over that area. Almost like leaving to not pay rent.
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Could you define "society" and explain what you mean by "built over time", that justifies systematic theft, "or leave"?
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Let's use city as society. Construction and establishment of systems take time and effort and money. If you dont like that established system then you should leave the system.
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The system of theft/taxation is worldwide.
Anywhere I go there will be the same system.
So that's beside the point.
But again: Why do the bullies get precedence?
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It isn't worldwide, just found all over the world. If you leave civilised areas no one bugs you about taxes. The precedence is due to a type of ownership. Property rights.
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Property rights?
Oh come on now.
What homesteading does the state do?
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All the properties of the people and businesses. You could also say the city land belongs to the city, state land belongs to state, etc.
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The state is also people. Just taking from one to give to themselves.
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The state is also people. People paying taxes that are given to people, and pay for services for the people. People cant even get into politics. It's not hard to run in an election.
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😂😂😂
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Based on what are "all properties of all people" belong to the state?
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What a misnomer.
Civilized like the indoctrination centers (schools) are called "education".
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Yes, and that would be the positive definition of indoctrination which means education. Same as exploitation can have a positive definition, to make use of.
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Wow. You actually just defended that.
Do tell me more of how indoctrination and brainwashing can be positives.
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It gives people the tools to learn more. Education is the most valuable thig we have in modern society, and anyone with a university education is more privileged than any King of old.
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Could you define city? Are you saying city is people?
"It gives the society [city] ownership over that area."
How does a concept, city, have ownership over an area?
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Those representing the citizens of that city have control over the city, granted by the citizens. Telling the people and organizations and businesses to leave so you can stay is wrong.
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I completely agree, which is why I am defending them against the state, a completely unnecessary parasite middleman that only contributes anti-life self-destructive brainwashing.
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Most of those people want the state though. You are defending them against their own interests.
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Their own interest to be systematically robbed from? Yes, only because they are also advocating and defending that I be robbed too. If it just affected them, I wouldn't care.
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When everyone benefits everyone is asked to contribute. Often the benefits of these services are secondary. Even if you don't have kids it benefits you to fund education.
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It's harder to move the city than for a person to leave. So the person who doesnt want to pay should leave. That city didnt appear overnight.