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CashDragon
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Hey Cashdragon, thanks for the pledge to the campaign, I registered on realbitcoin.cash, I saw some list of potential scammers, could you remove BarrioBitcoin? That must be a misunderstanding!
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I know the guy who manages BarrioBitcoin on realbitcoin.cash, he is a very passionate user getting many things done also designing and he has provided me with shirts & stickers
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He has tried to collect funds on behalf of a local vendor using a different address than what the vendor publishes. I am not saying he is 100% a scammer but is suspected.
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I know the vendor very well, Javier who is BB on RBC actually designed and sold posters to the vendor w vendors QR included, I personally paid to the vendor scanning these codes
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I have the TG of the Tony Burger he is also on Google Maps, he is a great ally in BarrioBitcoin, Javier would never scam anyone, I borrowed things to Javier he treated w great care
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Javier is a highly respected person in his neighborhood, he is a hard working man selling designs to feed his family, please remove that entry from the list
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You did not read through the evidence. He tried to pass off a different address as belonging to the vendor. I am not saying the vendor does not exist.
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I do not know what exactly happened, I can not judge the situation but I would still ask you to remove that name from that list as if you are right I think he learned a lesson already
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Just post the address of Cashonize of Tony and then delete it to upload the original photo, they are different directions because the other was Bcom but the funds go to the same seed
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On the Bitcoin.com wallet, you can change the address every time. and the QR of both Cashonize and Bcom are different directions. Two Qr same person even its same seed
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I believe you are innocent and the person who smeared your name first was not even Cashdragon, it was Slayer, he should be more patient in making such harsh accusations
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I think the cultural difference also adds to this misunderstanding, not to mention the challenge for Javier to write and read in english, that ability is VERY rare in Venezuela...
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All punishment should be in relation to the damage caused... That is what I am saying regardless if you are correct or if he is innocent and it is a misunderstanding
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You are welcome to post a comment there vouching for him, but unless he acknowledges and apologizes he is suspect from my point of view so the post is staying up. Sorry.
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Okey, thanks for the hint, will post a comment there, can I myself also add people to that suspected scammers list? I find the approach actually quite interesting
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I did post a comment you can read it on https://realbitcoin.cash/u/bitcoinmap
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Yes you can post about other suspected scammers as long as there is some evidence.
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have you seen this video about the BCH Scam Gang on http://youtube.com/Bitcoinmap I released it about two years ago, its about some big flipstarter campaigns...
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Thanks for the info, was not aware of this incident. Sad to see people not uphold their promises.
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I will not explain it again, in the end you continue to interact with fraudulent accounts here in Memo https://realbitcoin.cash/post/107779
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YO JAVIER this is not helpful :D the word fraud is quite heavy in english, you might be misinterpretating something yourself, CashDragon might have best intentions, only god knows
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I did not let him participate in my contest (https://realbitcoin.cash/post/108601) so he started calling me a scammer, this is why I published the evidence against him.
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https://youtube.com/shorts/4kSJ7FhZbzI?si=eCEQIYRJoYeOyb-z
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que fino yo ni sabia que tienes cuenta YT :)
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cono tengo tokens 😬
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do you have any screenshot of him calling you a "scammer"?
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https://memo.cash/a/ef8a36d714
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thanks for sharing, i will keep my judgement for myself, i say you both are over reacting, I still recommend you remove that post on RBC forum its putting BCH & RBC in bad light
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It puts both in a good light because it shows we do not tolerate dishonesty and will expose it. He has tainted your brand by taking a name you built up. More bad faith activity.
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Thanks for sharing your perspective, enjoy the sunshine, breath deeply and eat slowly, I myself I feel honored that someone voluntarily promoted my "brand", means its a good one
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But as you care about brands, it would be congruent to remove all mention of BarrioBitcoin on your site & database, as that is your territory, your responsibility...
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As soon as he proves the first address he provided belongs to the vendor or admits wrongdoing and apologizes, it will be removed. Otherwise he belongs in the suspected scammers list.
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So he is convicted of a crime based on myth until proven innocent? That already happened 500 years ago with witch hunts... The lack of evidence tells the whole story... You choose...
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Asking for donations to a merchant, then providing a different address than what the merchant has published is suspected scamming. Now evidence is needed to prove otherwise.
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You are making too many assumptions, where is the evidence that the provided address was not owned by the merchant? Do you have any receipt that funds were sent? Did you send? Who did?
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You must be joking. Now I have to prove a random address does not belong to the merchant? I asked the guy to explain himself and he went silent. He needs to provide the proof.
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Everyone is innocent until proven guilty, you can not provide any evidence, you providing a scammers list without evidence makes you guilty of defamation, willingly or unwillingly
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As far as I know you already banned Javier from the site, so what is the purpose to keep BarrioBitcoin on that list anyway?
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To let other people know that this guy should not be trusted without extra verification.
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So who is "this guy"? He is obviously NOT BarrioBitcoin on Twitter because that is my brand and you with your site verifieng each admission make yourself responsible for your site
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He is Barrio here on memo and on Barrio Bitcoin realbitcoin.cash.
You should be asking him why he used your name instead to trying to gaslight me.
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i hope we know real and legit
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BarrioBitcoin is legitimate in every way. It only continues one brand with the founder's permission. The rest is a Netflix movie the dragon invented, pure gossip.
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He changed his name just recently here on memo. Before he was impersonating your brand.

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You're good at gossip and trying to tarnish the image without conclusive evidence. You're a good gossip but a bad detective.
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Simply prove the vendor own both addresses and we are done.
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Simply provide the evidence that there was a transaction, which date, which amount, that I have been asking you from the start, so I can go find that tx in vendors wallet...
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There is nothing to find. He had a screenshot of vendor's personal wallet so he must be good friends. Send a new tx to prove ownership. I already explained how to prove.
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So you can not provide the amount nor the date the transaction in question was sent? You also do not have the tx id?
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There is no need for any transaction, Barrio tried to use the reputation of a vendor to collect money for himself. What are you not understanding?
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More info available @ https://realbitcoin.cash/post/110265
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This is how this discussion started:
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This is the reason why it started:
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And this is the end:
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So Barrio cannot prove the vendor owns the address that Barrio posted in an attempt to collect funds?
If barrio is honest he can easily prove it If he is honest the solution is simple
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It's simple. I just have to go to the merchant and force them to look up an old transaction so you're happy, but this costs time and money. I won't waste my time on that.
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I never asked you to do anything like that. I asked you to prove both addresses you gave belong to the vendor.
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Feliz is interested because it is primarily his project, but as far as I'm concerned, it gives me a headache to go through this silly and damaging situation.
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I am interested because Jahvier is my friend and there is a crazy guy smearing him with lies who doesnt accept actual laws and does censorship on a BCH forum that smears BCH promoter
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I am protecting the BCH community from scammers. When you post a vendor's address you better make sure it is verifiable or you will be called out.
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It is a lesson learned. Always post publicly verifiable QR if you are soliciting for a vendor.
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It's the same, obviously I have to see the merchant and force him to see me so we can review his transactions together. I don't have his time either.
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Hey Jahvier, I have this crazy guy muted now, he really thinks everyone must do as he says, disregarding actual laws, wasting time of everyone for one doller, its so ridiculous
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I am following the laws of moral and just conduct. If you make a mistake you should try to correct it.
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No review needed. Ask him to send a tx from his address to the one in question and for that he gets 0.1 BCH. I am sure he will not mind Details https://realbitcoin.cash/post/110265
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It doesn't really matter what you think, and I don't understand why they go to all this trouble. I'm too lazy to go to the store and tell them this nonsense...
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Someday, when I go to buy something, I might ask them to give you your dollar back from their wallet.
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Since you are good friends with the vendor it should be no issue. I offered you 0.1 BCH to prove you did not try to scam. https://realbitcoin.cash/post/110265
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Okay, while you stop making noise... I'll stop by the store sometime soon, and the same merchant will keep those funds you're talking about.
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Jahvier, this guy really wants to make you waste more time, let him pay for it, there is that QR on Tonys poster, he can use that to make a payment upfront so you at least eat a Burger
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A proper good quality and non-edited picture is needed showing vendor's logo and QR in the same frame.
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I am not making any noise, your friend Feliz is the one that started this all back up.
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On memo users can do what they want because nobody can censor any name or post, on your site you are responsible because you do block accounts & verify registrations...
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You yourself said BarrioBitcoin is not his brand, he also already changed the brand on all other social media, now your site is smearing bmap.app the oldest community project...
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I ma not smearing anything. You friend is the one that smeared your brand by usurping it then doing shady activity.
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Yes you are taking legal responsibility because you do manual verification, your data is hosted on your server, go ask a lawyer or chatGPT, great opportunity to learn something new
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Do not try threaten me. I am not intimidated by you.
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I recommend you remove BarrioBitcoin from that list, it is only harming BCH and RBF reputation, I really wonder what your intention is if you keep that name on that list...
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It will be removed as soon as he provides proof the he gave initially belongs to the vendor or admits to the deceptive activity and apologizes.
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He provided an address claiming it belonged to the vendor, then took a pic of the vendor cart and it was a different address. Now he needs to prove it belongs to same vendor.
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Why dont you ask vendor on Google Maps yourself, he is also on Telegram, Tony Burger Maracay, what is holding you back to find out what is reality? What is your TG? I will connect you
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Connect on TG, you must speak to vendor to verify if accusations are valid: http://t.me/F_E_L_I_Z i can open a group chat with vendor http://t.me/tonysburger to translate & be witness
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Instructions on how to prove address ownership provided @ https://realbitcoin.cash/post/2577
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You are twisting justice sir, everyone is innocent until proven guilty, all it needs is to realize that there is no evidence therefore he is innocent
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The evidence is clearly published. If he is innocent he can simply just prove it and clear up the whole situation.
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What is the transaction id of that donation? Show me evidence on the blockchain that is the authority and post it here on the blockchain, memo.cash is the only bulletproof social media
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No transaction is needed, he tried to possibly collect donations for himself by posting an unverified address. It is irrelevant if anyone sent funds to it or not.
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Innocence is a birth right, you are making accusations, you must prove that he is guilty, otherwise you are guilty of defamation, ask ChatGPT what defamation means...
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I did not say he is guilty. I said he is suspected based on evidence. Learn reading comprehension.
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You banned him, you deleted some of his posts while keeping others, you clearly judged, will you do the same to the account that smeared him once he is proven innocent?
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I asked him to explain, he did not so I banned him. The other account has the right to talk about their experience with him.
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I do not have TG because it requires a phone number. I am on reddit, mastodon, matrix, and bastyon.
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On Google Maps you can send a message to the vendor, just ask him: https://maps.app.goo.gl/1oBzWoQ1dfRL8xMUA TRBC vendors are registered on Google Maps so that you can verify yourself
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I am not questioning if he is a vendor. He is not involved in this matter, Barrio is the one that tried to collect funds in the name of the vendor to a suspect address.
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Whose fault is it, that someone sends funds, to a QR code, where there is no proof on the same photo? Never send when in doubt, make sure yourself, take responsibility for your action
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Your frustration is with the wrong person. He possibly tried to collect funds belonging to someone else, this is suspected scamming.
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By now it is more likely that you sent funds to that QR code to then smear his name for no reason inventing a story
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He smeared his own name by attempting to run a scam.
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The vendor is also on Google Maps: https://maps.app.goo.gl/1oBzWoQ1dfRL8xMUA
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Go do other things with your keyboard, you look like an idiot, not even my wife complains as much as you do. forget it and that's it
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jahvier you cant use the venezuelan jokes with english language, they do not translate well 🤣 marico esta gente no esta acostumbrado a tanta libertad de expresiรณn 😬
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asi no se puede expresar lo que se siente. creo que no aguantarian un chalequeo venezolano
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de verdad que no, solamente llamando idiota a otra persona ya cuesta una multa alla, en serio, levantando un dedo a mi me cobraron $150 una vez :D
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LOL
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Evidence you created in your mind. But relax and forget about it. I don't care about you at all.
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In the end, no one in the world has bought anything real with BCH. Only in #BarrioBitcoin does it exist and it is 100% verifiable. The rest is fiction.
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I assure you that you've never paid for transportation or something as simple as a burger with BCH. I have, my friend. And more things in fact.


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